Interview with Mario Vargas Llosa, 25 February 2002
Voice
Laughter
00:40:14
Oh, well, I can answer with a Borges quotation. Say, when you look yourself at a mirror, you don't know how your face is. You don't know if you are handsome or very ugly. It's very difficult. You don't really know. I would like my books to have the same influence that the great writers that I admire, but I really don't know what my own books are, you know? I don't know. I cannot measure them with the minimal objectivity that I can value, books of others.
Interview with Stanley Kunitz, 24 April 2002
Voice
Laughter
00:00:57
That's a hard question.
Voice
Laughter
00:05:33
Yeah, nobody possesses poetry. Poetry posesses you, is another way of putting it. So that was the beginning.
Voice
Laughter
00:11:58
I feel exactly the same way. I am very passionate about my politics. And it's not conservative. So.
Voice
Laughter
00:13:31
I think that--so many poets have told me they did the same thing.
Voice
Laughter
00:16:43
In a way, that seemed perfectly natural to me. I had been with him just a few days before and there was an aura already about him that I felt.
Voice
Laughter
00:18:21
That's a good point. But from early on you decided to be a poet.
Voice
Laughter
00:18:56
Yeah. And I believed them. Yeah, I really did.
Voice
Laughter
00:20:03
Tall, petite. You know, I just loved the sound of that word. And to her it was beautiful. And who knows why, but she thought so.
Voice
Laughter
00:22:23
I wish I knew.
Voice
Laughter
00:25:00
Oh, they're lying around or in my manuscript collection at Princeton, which, Princeton Public Library, who took over everything in my desk.
Voice
Laughter
00:25:19
Well, they brought, they sent a truck, and they had room and they wanted to fill the room. I gave them everthing I had.
Voice
Laughter
00:25:41
I wouldn't want to, I don't want to. It's like looking at one's grave.
Voice
Laughter
00:29:27
Well, not for me. I'm not even computer savvy and I don't want to be.
Voice
Laughter
00:30:13
Well, I go from pencil to pen and then to my old, battered Hermes. How many thousand? It's called Hermes 2000, yeah. Mhm.
Voice
Laughter
00:32:56
Well, so is poetry. Maybe that---I hadn't thought of that affinity. But obviously the springtime association is essential to understanding that.
Voice
Laughter
00:33:34
Oh yeah, I go. But I don't walk across the bridge. I'm in a car.
Voice
Laughter
00:34:00
Privileges of age are, I think that one has earned a certain degree of independence that one can do what one pleases. Even with one's work. And one isn't likely to be challenged in the way you are in your youth when you first publish your poems and get a response that is usually called diffidence.
Voice
Laughter
00:34:43
You suffered from diffidence at one point. You outlived diffidence.
Voice
Laughter
00:38:38
Yes. I don't know all of them but many of them meet me in the street and invent themselves or present themselves. Who knows what. But it's an extraordinary experience to be walking in the village here these days and the number of persons who greet you. And I don't think of myself as a public person but obviously poetry is part of the life in this village, as I guess it always has been, and it's the reason I came here in 1928, which is a long time ago.
Voice
Laughter
00:39:36
I came to the village immediately. And in fact I found a basement apartment on 9th street between 5th and 6th. I was paying $25 a month because I was in the back room with the basement and there was a noisy tenant in the front. The noise lasted all night, and one day I pounded on the door and, much to my amazement, the door opened and there was a bartender in his white jacket and he said, "Buddy, what's the trouble?" And I said, "I'm trying to sleep, that's the trouble." And I was working, and I had an office job. And he said, "Well, I don't know what I can do about the noise, but I tell you what: anytime you want a drink,"--this is a speakeasy, of course--"just come in. I'll be glad to give you anything you like." That was our agreement, and it worked out very well. And I slept better ever after.
Voice
Laughter
00:41:46
The Bowles? No. No, I didn't. I'm sorry, I didn't.
Voice
Laughter
00:41:55
Cummings I knew very well. He was a good friend. And Marianne Moore was one of the first to publish me in The Dial. I've ever been grateful for her. I'll tell you another story about her.
Interview with Mario Vargas Llosa, February 25, 2002
00:00:00 / 00:00:00
00:40:14 - 00:40:57
Oh, well, I can answer with a Borges quotation. Say, when you look yourself at a mirror, you don't know how your face is. You don't know if you are handsome or very ugly. It's very difficult. You don't really know. I would like my books to have the same influence that the great writers that I admire, but I really don't know what my own books are, you know? I don't know. I cannot measure them with the minimal objectivity that I can value, books of others.
Mario Vargas Llosa
Transcript
Criticism
Laughter
Car Sounds
Interview with Stanley Kunitz, April 24, 2002
00:00:00 / 00:00:00
00:00:57 - 00:01:01
That's a hard question.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Laughter
00:05:33 - 00:05:44
Yeah, nobody possesses poetry. Poetry posesses you, is another way of putting it. So that was the beginning.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Laughter
00:11:58 - 00:12:08
I feel exactly the same way. I am very passionate about my politics. And it's not conservative. So.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Politics
Laughter
00:13:31 - 00:13:38
I think that--so many poets have told me they did the same thing.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Laughter
Whirring
00:16:43 - 00:17:02
In a way, that seemed perfectly natural to me. I had been with him just a few days before and there was an aura already about him that I felt.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Laughter
Whirring
00:18:21 - 00:18:27
That's a good point. But from early on you decided to be a poet.
Mel Gussow
Transcript
Laughter
00:18:56 - 00:18:59
Yeah. And I believed them. Yeah, I really did.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Laughter
00:20:03 - 00:20:16
Tall, petite. You know, I just loved the sound of that word. And to her it was beautiful. And who knows why, but she thought so.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Sound
Laughter
00:22:23 - 00:22:29
I wish I knew.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Laughter
00:25:00 - 00:25:15
Oh, they're lying around or in my manuscript collection at Princeton, which, Princeton Public Library, who took over everything in my desk.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Princeton Public Library
Laughter
00:25:19 - 00:25:29
Well, they brought, they sent a truck, and they had room and they wanted to fill the room. I gave them everthing I had.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Princeton Public Library
Laughter
00:25:41 - 00:25:47
I wouldn't want to, I don't want to. It's like looking at one's grave.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Laughter
00:29:27 - 00:29:35
Well, not for me. I'm not even computer savvy and I don't want to be.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Technology
Laughter
00:30:13 - 00:30:33
Well, I go from pencil to pen and then to my old, battered Hermes. How many thousand? It's called Hermes 2000, yeah. Mhm.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Laughter
Technology
00:32:56 - 00:33:17
Well, so is poetry. Maybe that---I hadn't thought of that affinity. But obviously the springtime association is essential to understanding that.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Poetry Month
Laughter
00:33:34 - 00:33:45
Oh yeah, I go. But I don't walk across the bridge. I'm in a car.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Laughter
00:34:00 - 00:34:43
Privileges of age are, I think that one has earned a certain degree of independence that one can do what one pleases. Even with one's work. And one isn't likely to be challenged in the way you are in your youth when you first publish your poems and get a response that is usually called diffidence.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Age
Creative Process
Laughter
00:34:43 - 00:34:51
You suffered from diffidence at one point. You outlived diffidence.
Mel Gussow
Transcript
Laughter
Age
00:38:38 - 00:39:34
Yes. I don't know all of them but many of them meet me in the street and invent themselves or present themselves. Who knows what. But it's an extraordinary experience to be walking in the village here these days and the number of persons who greet you. And I don't think of myself as a public person but obviously poetry is part of the life in this village, as I guess it always has been, and it's the reason I came here in 1928, which is a long time ago.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Poetry Community
Laughter
New York City
Public Life
00:39:36 - 00:41:12
I came to the village immediately. And in fact I found a basement apartment on 9th street between 5th and 6th. I was paying $25 a month because I was in the back room with the basement and there was a noisy tenant in the front. The noise lasted all night, and one day I pounded on the door and, much to my amazement, the door opened and there was a bartender in his white jacket and he said, "Buddy, what's the trouble?" And I said, "I'm trying to sleep, that's the trouble." And I was working, and I had an office job. And he said, "Well, I don't know what I can do about the noise, but I tell you what: anytime you want a drink,"--this is a speakeasy, of course--"just come in. I'll be glad to give you anything you like." That was our agreement, and it worked out very well. And I slept better ever after.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Anecdote
Early Years
Laughter
00:41:46 - 00:41:52
The Bowles? No. No, I didn't. I'm sorry, I didn't.
Stanley Kunitz
Transcript
Laughter
00:41:55 - 00:42:15
Cummings I knew very well. He was a good friend. And Marianne Moore was one of the first to publish me in The Dial. I've ever been grateful for her. I'll tell you another story about her.