Interview with Bill Irwin, 8 February 1983
00:09:18
Do I want to ask you anything? Well... how about, uh... aside from success, about---
00:09:30
Happiness?
00:09:31
Yeah.
00:09:32
Marital?
00:09:33
Well, just call it a lightness of heart.
00:09:35
Okay. In other words, you wanna see if you're going to get your wish. Your heart's wish, I mean---
00:09:42
Yeah, maybe even know what my heart wishes is.
00:09:45
Yeah. 19 cards.
00:10:52
You're undecided about what you want, at this point. And I think it has a lot to do with you're a little upset about money, too. Yeah, that doesn't add to your love life. It's in the cards again, this guy loves you. Your sister's in the cards. Oh, you're going to have a very good wife! '84, there's your wife.
00:11:13
Really? That's my wife?
00:11:15
Well, that's the only one in the deck that could be Chinese, or similar to that or whatever she is.
00:11:20
Okay.
00:11:20
Isn't that funny?
00:11:21
That is interesting.
00:11:22
Yeah. She came in very good.
00:11:23
Came in there, did you say, in '84?
00:11:25
No, she's very happy with you. But '84 will be better---there's a change around her, too. There's gotta be some kind of a change, definitely. This is a house later on. I think you want to buy a little house, settle down. You were undecided some time about your marriage.
00:11:43
Mhm.
00:11:44
You still are, that's very sad. What, are you thinking of separating or something? I'm so shocked!
00:11:57
Are you really, Kathy?
00:11:58
Yes.
00:11:59
I thought that's what the card says.
00:12:01
No, I am. I didn't think that I'd get a divorce in here.
00:12:05
Is that what you're getting?
00:12:09
You're not happy though, you're not happy. Now you're going to have to change, you know what I mean?
00:12:16
Uh-huh.
00:12:16
I never expected, no, I never expected to pull the divorce.
00:12:21
That one here?
00:12:22
Yeah, that's what it is. It's a very dramatic thing, you know. You've got to think about this before...
00:12:26
Oh, yeah, no I'm doing a lot of thinking.
00:12:30
Yeah, but you're not happy, you know.
00:12:31
Yeah. Mhm. That's what you're getting here.
00:12:33
Oh god, yeah. They're not good cards.
00:12:34
Did you go through a divorce, Kathy, ever?
00:12:36
Yes, several. It's heart rendering but it's sometimes for the better, if you can't make it together. I'm not seeing it that you're making it together now.
00:12:46
You're not seeing that?
00:12:48
No. She's unhappy, she doesn't see enough of you. That's one of the things. She's an unhappy girl. And then you're turning away from her, so that means you're not happy. You're not completely satisfied so it's ridiculous to carry it through. It leads up to you now. Give it a lot of thought, you know. But even if you give it a lot of thought, you're not going to stay with her.
00:13:12
Is that what you get?
00:13:14
Exactly what I get.
00:13:17
Because it's not your wish. It's is your wish, and it's---these cards are---not good cards. Plus it affects your health a little bit, and you can't do that. Yeah. Nourish, you're not allowed---it's not good for your aura. And you know, when you're torn like this it's no good. So you have to make up your mind one thing or the other. In '83 you have to decide what you want. You should know completely by May.
00:13:42
You think so?
00:13:43
That's what you get? This, uh, there was, at least at that point, there was some happiness for her, somewhere.
00:13:43
Yeah.
00:13:52
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of happiness. She too has changed a little bit. I mean, you know? I wouldn't dwell on it but if I were you I wouldn't---I wouldn't exactly stay with this.
00:14:04
Mhm, mhm.
00:14:09
Does she know this is the way you feel?
00:14:10
Yeah, we've been---
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Discussing it.
00:14:13
Yeah, since Christmas.
00:14:17
It really threw me for a loop. I thought it was such a happy thing.
00:14:21
You what?
00:14:22
I thought it was such a happy marriage, I really did.
00:14:25
I know, when we used to come in here.
00:14:28
Yeah, it was a whole different scene. And I'm picking stuff up from you lately that you're not yourself, you know?
00:14:33
We haven't, we haven't seen each other.
00:16:50
In other words, you have a child. Two children or three. But I know you'll have children, because I know you'd love to have a child. And you know somebody already? Another girl?
00:20:03
Yes. It's excellent. That's your marriage. Well, that's a lawyer. Have you gone to a lawyer already? You're thinking about it, though.
00:20:11
Mm, no, not really.
Interview with Bill Irwin, February 8, 1983
00:09:18 - 00:09:29
Do I want to ask you anything? Well... how about, uh... aside from success, about---
00:09:30 - 00:09:30
Happiness?
00:09:31 - 00:09:32
Yeah.
00:09:32 - 00:09:33
Marital?
00:09:33 - 00:09:34
Well, just call it a lightness of heart.
00:09:35 - 00:09:42
Okay. In other words, you wanna see if you're going to get your wish. Your heart's wish, I mean---
00:09:42 - 00:09:44
Yeah, maybe even know what my heart wishes is.
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Yeah. 19 cards.
00:10:52 - 00:11:13
You're undecided about what you want, at this point. And I think it has a lot to do with you're a little upset about money, too. Yeah, that doesn't add to your love life. It's in the cards again, this guy loves you. Your sister's in the cards. Oh, you're going to have a very good wife! '84, there's your wife.
00:11:13 - 00:11:14
Really? That's my wife?
00:11:15 - 00:11:20
Well, that's the only one in the deck that could be Chinese, or similar to that or whatever she is.
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Okay.
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Isn't that funny?
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That is interesting.
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Yeah. She came in very good.
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Came in there, did you say, in '84?
00:11:25 - 00:11:42
No, she's very happy with you. But '84 will be better---there's a change around her, too. There's gotta be some kind of a change, definitely. This is a house later on. I think you want to buy a little house, settle down. You were undecided some time about your marriage.
00:11:43 - 00:11:43
Mhm.
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You still are, that's very sad. What, are you thinking of separating or something? I'm so shocked!
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Are you really, Kathy?
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Yes.
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I thought that's what the card says.
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No, I am. I didn't think that I'd get a divorce in here.
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Is that what you're getting?
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You're not happy though, you're not happy. Now you're going to have to change, you know what I mean?
00:12:16 - 00:12:16
Uh-huh.
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I never expected, no, I never expected to pull the divorce.
00:12:21 - 00:12:21
That one here?
00:12:22 - 00:12:25
Yeah, that's what it is. It's a very dramatic thing, you know. You've got to think about this before...
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Oh, yeah, no I'm doing a lot of thinking.
00:12:30 - 00:12:30
Yeah, but you're not happy, you know.
00:12:31 - 00:12:32
Yeah. Mhm. That's what you're getting here.
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Oh god, yeah. They're not good cards.
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Did you go through a divorce, Kathy, ever?
00:12:36 - 00:12:46
Yes, several. It's heart rendering but it's sometimes for the better, if you can't make it together. I'm not seeing it that you're making it together now.
00:12:46 - 00:12:47
You're not seeing that?
00:12:48 - 00:13:11
No. She's unhappy, she doesn't see enough of you. That's one of the things. She's an unhappy girl. And then you're turning away from her, so that means you're not happy. You're not completely satisfied so it's ridiculous to carry it through. It leads up to you now. Give it a lot of thought, you know. But even if you give it a lot of thought, you're not going to stay with her.
00:13:12 - 00:13:12
Is that what you get?
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Exactly what I get.
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Because it's not your wish. It's is your wish, and it's---these cards are---not good cards. Plus it affects your health a little bit, and you can't do that. Yeah. Nourish, you're not allowed---it's not good for your aura. And you know, when you're torn like this it's no good. So you have to make up your mind one thing or the other. In '83 you have to decide what you want. You should know completely by May.
00:13:42 - 00:13:42
You think so?
00:13:43 - 00:13:52
That's what you get? This, uh, there was, at least at that point, there was some happiness for her, somewhere.
00:13:43 - 00:13:43
Yeah.
00:13:52 - 00:14:04
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of happiness. She too has changed a little bit. I mean, you know? I wouldn't dwell on it but if I were you I wouldn't---I wouldn't exactly stay with this.
00:14:04 - 00:14:04
Mhm, mhm.
00:14:09 - 00:14:09
Does she know this is the way you feel?
00:14:10 - 00:14:11
Yeah, we've been---
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Discussing it.
00:14:13 - 00:14:15
Yeah, since Christmas.
00:14:17 - 00:14:19
It really threw me for a loop. I thought it was such a happy thing.
00:14:21 - 00:14:21
You what?
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I thought it was such a happy marriage, I really did.
00:14:25 - 00:14:26
I know, when we used to come in here.
00:14:28 - 00:14:32
Yeah, it was a whole different scene. And I'm picking stuff up from you lately that you're not yourself, you know?
00:14:33 - 00:14:35
We haven't, we haven't seen each other.
00:16:50 - 00:17:00
In other words, you have a child. Two children or three. But I know you'll have children, because I know you'd love to have a child. And you know somebody already? Another girl?
00:20:03 - 00:20:11
Yes. It's excellent. That's your marriage. Well, that's a lawyer. Have you gone to a lawyer already? You're thinking about it, though.
00:20:11 - 00:20:13
Mm, no, not really.